Do unreal people hold important positions or get elected?
Short Answer
The speakers consistently state that virtually all politicians and public figures in positions of power are puppets with no real authority over important decisions. Whether these individuals are "unreal" in the strict backdrop-people sense varies — some may be soulless organic portals, some may be ensouled humans parasitised by tulpa-egregor entities, and some may be deliberate insertions (Step Downs) placed by the Galactic Federation. What is unanimous across all speakers is that the people the public sees in power are never the ones actually making decisions. The real power structure is hidden behind layers of secret societies and ultimately controlled by the Federation. Mari Swaruu described these visible leaders as "the disposable faces of the true elite," and Athena called Putin "just another avatar to control a region" who "lacks real power to the degree that the people are told." Even the Pope, according to Yazhi, is "just a high priest and a puppet of hidden handlers underneath him."
The question of whether those in power are literally backdrop people (without a soul from Source) or whether they are ensouled beings who have been corrupted, parasitised, or are simply playing an assigned role is more nuanced, and different speakers emphasised different mechanisms.
The Full Picture
All Politicians Are Puppets
The single most consistent claim across the material is that no politician holds genuine power. Mari Swaruu stated this with particular force: "All human politicians, and at all levels, are puppets and do not hold any real power over important decisions that affect their country and humankind." She explained that politicians hold power only over the people directly — through impositions and enforcement — but for anything of real consequence, "they must obey orders from the secret organizations above them, and the ones who disobey and try to go their own way are quickly removed, terminated, or used as an excuse to start a war."
Elections, in this framework, are entirely theatrical. Mari described how "the more power a political post and role is, the heavier controlled it will be to the point where all politicians at high levels are placed there artificially and using elections as a justification for the people, although who would be the winner was decided beforehand, and the election was completely rigged by the system itself." Local elections at lower levels may occasionally reflect genuine outcomes, but any position with significant influence is pre-determined.
This framing reduces the question "do unreal people get elected?" to something almost beside the point. If all elections at meaningful levels are rigged and all politicians are puppets, whether a given leader has a soul or not becomes secondary to the structural reality that they have no independent agency regardless.
Key sources: S-110 (Politics Controlled from Off-Planet), S-027 (Nuclear Scare)
Step Downs: Federation Insertions in Public Life
One specific mechanism by which non-ordinary individuals end up in positions of power is the "Step Down" process. Mari Swaruu identified the Alfratans from Alpha Centauri as the race the Federation most commonly uses for direct insertion into Earth society. These are members of a Lyrian race who look identical to Earth humans and are placed into public roles — including political ones — to carry out specific Federation agendas.
Mari explained that "this is the case with many people of science, as well as with several politicians whom I'm not allowed to call out by name because I'm here to expose the entire system and not go against one or another specific one." These Step Down politicians answer not only to the secret societies that serve as their visible handlers but also to the Federation directly, bypassing the normal chain of command.
This means that some people in prominent positions are not Earth-born humans at all — they are extraterrestrial operatives fulfilling a mission. They are not "unreal" in the backdrop-people sense (they are ensouled beings from Source), but they are not what the public believes them to be. Their presence in power is not the result of democratic processes but of deliberate placement by the Federation's control apparatus.
Key source: S-110 (Politics Controlled from Off-Planet)
The Elites as Soulless Egregors
Mari Swaruu took the question of who holds power in a more directly metaphysical direction in her discussion of elites. She described those at the top of the visible power structure — the billionaires, the public-facing controllers — as "mostly just about completely soulless, regressive egregors, just a reflection of the worst parts of humankind's psyche, a side product of the human collective mind." This is a strong statement: the people who appear to wield the most influence on the world stage are, in Mari's framing, not ensouled beings but egregor manifestations — thought-forms brought into existence by the collective fears and fixations of humanity itself.
She drew a clear distinction between these visible elites and the real power behind them. The public figures — including politicians and billionaires — are "the front men, puppets for the general population of those behind them who are the ones who do have real power and who are invisible to the public." When things go wrong, the population turns against these front men, "never being able to connect the dots and to know who are the real ones to blame."
Key source: S-129 (Elites Planning to Leave)
Tulpa-Egregors Parasitising Those in Power
Yazhi offered a different but complementary mechanism. Rather than describing politicians as inherently soulless, she described them as parasitised — inhabited or controlled by tulpa-egregor entities that were themselves manifested by the collective fears of humanity. She explained that the "reptilian Tulpa" that researchers like David Icke have identified behind politicians is a real phenomenon, but the entity in question is not a biological reptilian race. It is a tulpa created by humans, shaped by the primal Lyrian fear of snakes, and projected into a humanoid-reptilian form.
This tulpa "parasites the politicians who are the ones that actively exploit humans. The ones that give the orders to make humans suffer." Yazhi clarified that the evil is not inherent to any species: "both human form, or reptilian form, are being manipulated by an evil Tulpa that the people created." Even real, physical Kingu reptilians are parasitised by the same tulpa entities that attach to human politicians. The source of the malevolence is the tulpa itself — a concentrated manifestation of collective fear.
In the "Astral War" discussion, Yazhi went further, describing "shadow operators" who are tulpa-egregors that have achieved their own reincarnation cycles into human-like bodies. These beings are "half there in what you call physical reality and half in the spirit world," operating in human biological suits while their consciousness extends into the astral. They lack empathy entirely and "only take what they want." By breeding among themselves over time, they have accommodated human-like bodies to their particular frequency needs — a process Yazhi noted aligns with David Icke's observations about elite bloodline inbreeding.
These shadow operators occupy positions of power not because they were elected by the public but because they were manifested into existence by the collective unconscious and then sustained by the fear and suffering they cause. They are, in a real sense, humanity's own creation turned against it.
Key sources: 176 (Tulpas, Kingu Reptiles), 208 (Astral War, Shadow Operators)
The Layered Power Structure
The speakers described the power structure on Earth as an onion with multiple layers, and the question of who is "real" or "unreal" becomes more complex at each level.
At the outermost layer sits the general population and their perceived reality — "Matrix people," as Mari called them. The next layer in is the secret societies (the "Deep State"), which control official politics and its narratives. Deeper still are levels of these same societies that interact with lower astral entities. And at the deepest human level, the secret society members have direct contact with non-human beings and the Galactic Federation itself.
Mari noted that "even normal so-called democratically elected politicians may, in some cases, come in touch with Galactic Federation representatives," though they typically interact only with human-looking delegates rather than non-human Federation members, because the politicians are considered expendable and not trusted with that level of information.
Yazhi identified the Vatican as the hand the Federation uses to control all governments on Earth, with the Pope serving as a figurehead — "just a high priest and a puppet of hidden handlers underneath him." She was explicit that those at the Vatican's highest levels "are not Catholic. They only play to be Catholic as part of the religious control mechanism." The real beliefs of those in power involve worship of lower astral entities and a synthesised set of ancient esoteric knowledge.
The power structure also extends to specific geopolitical figures. Athena described Putin as Cabal — "not working against the Deep State, but part of the Deep State itself that plays both sides." She called him "just another avatar to control a region" and noted he was playing a role "dictated to him from above by his handlers." Zelenski she described as "formerly a TV comedian" who "lent himself as a puppet of the Biden family directly through CIA handlers." Yazhi confirmed: "Putin is Cabal... as he has always been."
Key sources: S-179 (Power Structure on Earth), 196 (Vatican), 247 (Putin/Cabal)
Organic Portals as Monitoring Agents
Mari Swaruu added another dimension to the question in her discussion of monitoring spirits. She described how soulless people — organic portals — serve as surveillance instruments for lower astral entities. These are "empty shells with an open door for influence and possession by entities in the lower astral who use them and who work through them as the organic entrance portals that they are."
While this discussion was not specifically about politicians, it describes a mechanism by which unreal people in any social position — including positions of authority or proximity to power — can function as agents of the control system. A nosy neighbour, an unexpectedly inquisitive acquaintance, or someone in a minor official role could all be organic portals gathering information for the astral entities who oppose positive change. Mari's practical advice was to work in silence and share plans only on a need-to-know basis.
This connects to the broader question because it suggests that the control system does not require unreal people to hold the top positions themselves. They can surround, monitor, and constrain those in power (or those working against power) from any level of society.
Key source: S-205 (Monitoring Spirits)
The Collective Creates Its Own Rulers
Aneeka offered a perspective that frames the entire question differently. In her discussion of how the Cabal was created, she argued that "mind control comes from the very side of humans, from high human echelons, who themselves are also controlled from behind by their own creations and egregors because they consider them as real and yes they become very real." The controllers are themselves controlled — by the thought-forms that humanity's collective consciousness brought into existence.
This means the people in power, whether ensouled or not, are ultimately products of the collective unconscious. The collective manifests its fears into entities, those entities parasitise or inhabit bodies in positions of influence, and then those bodies enact policies that generate more fear — creating a self-reinforcing cycle. Aneeka was clear that this is not exclusively about reptilians or any single non-human race: "it is a soup. There is no simple explanation."
Yazhi reinforced this in the Vatican transcript, noting that from the broadest perspective, "the simple people of Earth, those little hapless ones that I call 'Broken Shoes', are the ones who ultimately are controlling everything that is going on, on Earth." The Federation, the Cabal, the puppet politicians — all of them are ultimately responding to, and manifesting from, the collective consciousness of humanity itself.
Key sources: A-045 (Creation of Cabal), 196 (Vatican)
Can You Detect Whether a Leader Is Real or Unreal?
Swaruu (9)'s original framework from 2018 offered some indicators: unreal people are "deeply embedded in the system," those who "conform to the system," who "cannot think outside the box." She suggested that if you try to engage someone in deeper metaphysical conversation, the false ones will give pre-programmed responses or become defensive and dismissive. "Go ahead try arguing metaphysics with a traffic cop. Most probably there is no one there, it's just a program to repress the people."
Applied to politicians and public figures, this framework would suggest that many leaders — those who robotically follow scripts, who never deviate from the approved narrative, who show no capacity for independent thought — could well be operating on Matrix programming rather than from a genuine soul connection. But Swaruu (9) was always careful to note that you cannot know for certain from the outside, and that the correct response is to treat all people with equal respect regardless.
Yazhi complicated this further with her relativistic view. If the real/unreal distinction is itself relative and subjective, and if everyone at some level is a tulpa (an idea held by Source), then categorising specific leaders as "real" or "unreal" may be less useful than understanding the system that places them there and the forces that operate through them.
Key sources: 009 (Not Real People), 176 (Tulpas)
Evolution of Understanding Across Speakers
Swaruu (9) (2018) provided the foundational framework of real versus unreal people but did not specifically address political leaders in this context. Her emphasis was on the general principle: unreal people are deeply embedded in the system and serve as its components, whether as background extras or as more active enforcers like the traffic cop example.
Yazhi (2020–2023) developed the most detailed picture of who controls Earth, identifying the tulpa-egregor mechanism behind political parasitation, the Vatican as the Federation's hand, and specific figures like Putin as Cabal avatars. She connected the backdrop phenomenon to the power structure by showing how the same collective manifestation dynamics that create unreal people also create the dark entities that control those in power.
Mari Swaruu (2023–2024) was the most direct in stating that all politicians are puppets, that elections are rigged, and that the visible elites are "mostly soulless, regressive egregors." She contributed the Step Down mechanism (Alfratans placed in public roles) and the practical framework of monitoring spirits operating through organic portals at all social levels.
Athena (2022) contributed specific geopolitical analysis, identifying individual leaders as avatars and Cabal members, and reinforcing the point that even those who appear to be fighting the system (like Putin supposedly opposing the Deep State) are playing assigned roles within it.
Aneeka (2021) provided the historical and philosophical context, showing how the control system is a self-reinforcing soup of human collective manifestation, real physical non-human races, and egregor entities — all interconnected and none fully explaining the situation on their own.
Key Transcript References
| # | Title | Focus |
|---|-------|-------|
| 009 | Not Real People | Core backdrop framework — system-embedded people cannot think outside the box; traffic cop example; treat all equally |
| 176 | Tulpas, Kingu Reptiles | Reptilian tulpa parasites politicians; evil comes from tulpa not species; Cabal members are parasited starseeds |
| 196 | Vatican Power Structure | Pope is puppet of hidden handlers; Vatican controls all governments as Federation's hand; Cabal not Catholic; real power uses gold/no economy |
| 208 | Astral War, Shadow Operators | Shadow operators are tulpa-egregors in human bodies; own reincarnation cycle; breeding among themselves; spirit war reflects human collective confusion |
| 247 | Putin and Cabal Levels | Putin is Cabal, "just another avatar"; Zelenski puppet of Biden/CIA; both sides controlled; war at multiple levels including non-human |
| A-045 | Creation of Cabal | Mind control from human echelons controlled by own egregor creations; evil is collective manifestation; "soup" with no simple explanation |
| S-027 | Nuclear Scare | All politicians are puppets; disobedient ones removed/terminated; both sides of conflicts controlled by same groups; elections simulated |
| S-110 | Politics Controlled from Off-Planet | Federation controls political agendas; Alfratan Step Downs placed as public figures; all high-level elections rigged; politicians answer to secret societies and Federation |
| S-129 | Elites Planning to Leave | Visible elites are "mostly soulless regressive egregors"; puppet politicians are disposable faces; real power invisible; lower-level elites fall for same fear narratives |
| S-179 | Power Structure on Earth | Onion layers of control; deepest level contacts non-humans; elected politicians may meet Federation delegates; politicians considered expendable |
| S-205 | Monitoring Spirits | Organic portals as surveillance for lower astral; soulless people as empty shells; people with soul can lose connection; work in silence |
| S-049 | The False People and You | Intermittent nature of false people; practical energy management; don't waste attention on irrelevant people |