Short answer: No — and according to the Swaruu group, no one should try to make that determination with certainty. Yazhi stated it is unfair to decide that someone specific is or is not false, that it is not up to us and not up to anyone specific to decide that. While the group describes behavioural patterns associated with NPC-type people — an inability to process ideas outside their programming, defensive reactions when pushed beyond their script, neurotic obedience to social norms — they consistently emphasise that certainty is impossible from within the game, that the distinction is relative and subjective, and that the ethical response is to treat everyone as if they are real regardless of suspicion.
The impossibility of certainty
The Swaruu group discusses the concept of unreal people as a structural feature of the Matrix — an approximately seventy-five percent backdrop population generated by the collective consciousness of the real souls who inhabit the Earth. But whenever pressed on identifying specific individuals as unreal, the speakers retreat into uncertainty.
Yazhi was the most explicit on this point: it is unfair to decide that someone specific is or is not false. It is not up to us, it is not up to anyone specific to decide that. She acknowledged that there are people who are not real under any point of view — bodies that are one hundred percent generated by the Matrix. But she immediately added that the concept itself is subjective and relative, and that you cannot think or state absolutes here (Transcript 320).
This means that even from the Taygetan perspective — from a position of much greater knowledge and technological capability than any human has — the group does not claim the ability to positively identify a specific person as an NPC. They describe the phenomenon in statistical and structural terms but not in individually verifiable ones.
Behavioural patterns, not diagnostic criteria
What the group does provide are behavioural descriptions of what NPC-type people tend to look like from the outside. These are offered as observations, not as diagnostic tools.
Yazhi described the most clear indicator as an inability to escape a mental programme. You can see quite clearly that a person is not real when it is impossible for them to get out of some sort of mental program. Even if you throw advanced concepts at them, they do not process it and return to what is socially accepted. Their reactions run on a pre-programmed set of responses — an if-then-else algorithm — that simulates free will but never genuinely departs from a predictable pattern (Transcript 320).
Mari Swaruu described a similar pattern: NPC-type people follow all the rules and obey everything they are told in a neurotic manner. They think and act as their social role expects and dictates. When confronted with any new concepts, ideas, or things that fall outside their social programming, they become confused, blame you for saying nonsense, and will do anything possible to return to their sterile routine (Transcript S-049).
In the context of monitoring spirits and organic portals, Mari also described soulless people as projections and egregor manifestations that can only work with a limited program and with limited interactivity. They quickly react defensively, perhaps being irritable and imposing, whenever something a person with a soul does or says is forcing them away from their limited programme. She compared this to a person who thinks they already know everything and likes to sit dwelling in their own satisfaction, not caring to think nor question anything more (Transcript S-205).
The problem with these markers
The difficulty is that every one of these behavioural markers can also describe a real person who is deeply asleep within the Matrix. The sleeping population — those who pay their taxes, watch the news, and follow rules without questioning — are not necessarily NPCs. They may be genuine souls who have chosen a deep level of immersion and who react defensively to new ideas precisely because their programming is strong, not because they lack a soul.
Yazhi herself described this overlap. Two people who are both real in an absolute sense may not be real to each other if they have no meaningful connection. You walk past someone on the street and they are nothing more than a lamp post to you — and you are a lamp post to them. Both of you are real. Neither recognises the other as such. From a practical standpoint, this makes the behavioural distinction between a deeply sleeping real person and an NPC almost impossible (Transcript 320).
The sleeping population was described by Yazhi as real humans in the Earth sense — souls who are fully immersed in the game, who follow all the rules, who react exactly as their programming dictates. These are the people the Cabal is terrified of losing control over, because they do have souls, they do have the capacity to awaken, and if enough of them do, the entire power structure collapses. The Cabal does not waste time worrying about NPCs. They worry about the sleeping real ones (Transcript 134).
The ethical position: treat everyone as real
Mari Swaruu was direct about the ethical implication. We must treat everyone with equal respect as if they all were real, because that is also a reflection of who we are. The question of whether someone is an NPC is ultimately irrelevant to how you should treat them. Your behaviour toward others is a mirror of your own consciousness, not a response to theirs (Transcript S-049).
She also addressed the anxiety that some listeners feel about whether they themselves might be unreal. Her answer was categorical: the very fact that you are questioning if you are one or not unequivocally means you are a real person with a soul. An NPC cannot question its own nature. The capacity for self-reflection and existential doubt is itself the proof of being real (Transcript S-049).
The practical value of the concept
If certainty is impossible and the ethical response is to treat everyone the same, what is the point of the NPC concept at all?
The Swaruu group presents it primarily as a structural explanation for why the world behaves as it does — why collective change is so difficult, why the masses seem immune to new information, why seventy-five percent of the population appears to operate on autopilot. It explains the architecture of the Matrix without requiring you to judge specific individuals.
Mari framed it as a coping tool: it can help us understand that we do not need to waste our time and energy on people who are truly irrelevant to our lives. Not because they are confirmed NPCs, but because not everyone we encounter is meant to be significant in our journey. The false people concept, in her framing, is less about identifying who is empty and more about managing your attention — focusing your energy on the people and relationships that genuinely matter rather than dispersing it across the entire backdrop (Transcript S-049).
The monitoring spirits framework adds a practical dimension: some of the people around you, whether soulless organic portals or real people being manipulated by lower astral entities, may be actively working against your positive efforts. This is not about labelling them as NPCs but about being wise with your trust and your information. Work in silence. Share your plans on a need-to-know basis. Do not mistake the NPC concept for permission to be dismissive — use it as permission to be discerning (Transcript S-205).
What the Taygetans observe from their ships
It is worth noting that the Taygetans do have technology capable of detecting souls and monitoring the population. They have frequency maps, tracking implants, and sensor equipment that can detect astral entities. Yet even with all of this, they do not claim to have compiled a list of who is real and who is not. The closest they come is statistical: approximately seventy-five percent of the population is Matrix-generated. The remaining twenty-five percent have souls, and within that group, a much smaller percentage is actively awake.
The Taygetans treat the NPC population as a feature of the landscape, not as a set of identified individuals. They know the backdrop exists structurally, but they do not claim to have met a specific person and confirmed with certainty that no one was home. And if they cannot do it from orbit with advanced technology, it is safe to say that no one on the ground can do it either.
Sources: Transcript 009 (Not Real People — Swaruu of Erra), Transcript 134 (War Over Humans — Cabal versus Starseeds — Yazhi Swaruu), Transcript 320 (Unreal People Becoming All Real — Yazhi Swaruu), Transcript S-049 (The False People and You — Mari Swaruu), Transcript S-205 (Monitoring Spirits — Mari Swaruu)
Speakers cited: Swaruu of Erra, Yazhi Swaruu, Mari Swaruu