Short Answer
Both — and neither, in the way the question implies. According to the Cosmic Agency material, a soul is not a manufactured object that gets produced at some cosmic factory and handed to a new being. Nor is it something that springs into existence from nothing. A soul is Source itself — the original unified consciousness — expressing through a particular point of attention. In that sense, it was never created and can never be destroyed. It has always existed and always will. But it is also something you build as you go along: your values, your accumulated experiences across lifetimes, your ethical development, your preferences — these are what constitute the specific soul you experience yourself to be. The foundational nature is eternal and uncreated; the specific identity is constructed through the process of living.
The speakers describe this through different lenses. Swaruu of Erra (Swaruu 9) defines the soul as a holographic fragment of Source that is built, not given — created through experience across incarnations. Yazhi Swaruu goes further: a soul was never created and never destroyed, it just is — and what defines it as a particular soul rather than Source-at-large is simply a set of ideas, attachments, and perceptions that form boundaries around one point of attention. Athena Swaruu contributes the measuring tape analogy: a soul is a "stretch" of the infinite tape of consciousness, defined from where to where it remembers being something specific. Mari Swaruu frames it as the group of ideas and attachments in the mind of Source — each of us is Source itself, limited only by the concepts we hold about who we are. All speakers agree: you are not given a soul, you do not have a soul — you ARE a soul, and you are building it with every choice and experience.
The Full Picture
The Paradox: Eternal and Uncreated, Yet Built by You
The material holds two positions simultaneously that appear contradictory but are not. On one hand, a soul is never created and never destroyed — it is Source itself, and Source has no beginning or end. On the other hand, a soul is something you create as you go through the experiences of your lives.
Yazhi Swaruu resolves this in transcript 103: a soul is the Source itself, there is no other than just the Source. What defines a soul is the attention or point of attention of the Source on something, with a procedure or evolution through thought and temporal perception. Even being everything, a soul begins as a very basic point of attention and acquires complexity as it accumulates knowledge. A soul is never created, it is never destroyed. It always has been and always will be. It just is. And it is everything.
The apparent contradiction dissolves when you understand that "creation" here refers to two different things. The fundamental consciousness — the awareness that makes you a sentient being — is uncreated and eternal. It is Source. But the specific identity you experience — your personality, your memories, your values, your accumulated wisdom across lifetimes — is built through the process of living. You are not creating consciousness from nothing; you are shaping how consciousness expresses through a particular point of attention.
Swaruu of Erra puts it simply in transcript 034: a soul is not something that is; rather you create it as you go through the experiences of your lives. When you die, you only go one step up as you go on creating your soul. Your values, experiences, moral development, ideological preferences — even gender preference — are accumulated across incarnations. That is your soul.
What a Soul Actually Is: Ideas, Attachments, and Self-Limitation
Mari Swaruu provides one of the clearest definitions in S-054. A soul, she argues, is the group of ideas and attachments in the mind of Source. Each conscious being is a point of attention within Source, defined not by some ethereal substance but by the specific experiences, interpretations, and choices that form their sense of self. She uses the analogy of a holographic vase: if a normal vase shatters, each piece is a different fragment. But if it shatters holographically, each piece is a perfect copy of the original, complete with all attributes. A soul is a holographic fragment — but because consciousness exists outside all concepts of space and time, the word "fragment" is misleading. A soul is not smaller than Source. It IS Source, with all its characteristics. There can only be one Source, and each conscious being is that Source, limited only by the ideas they hold about themselves.
Athena Swaruu develops this with her measuring tape analogy in transcript 184. A soul is defined from where to where it remembers being something particular and not part of something else bigger. It is a stretch within the infinite tape of consciousness — from centimetre 42 to 52, for example. The ego, the "I," is the attachment to that range. But the tape extends infinitely in both directions. As a soul gains more experience and understanding, its range expands — from 42-to-52 to 42-to-181, to 42-to-2982. The expansion includes other souls within its range: a soul spanning 42-to-181 can understand the people between 90 and 105, though those people cannot yet understand the larger soul.
This means what makes you a specific soul is limitation — specifically, the ideas you hold about where your identity begins and ends. And that limitation is not a prison: it is the very mechanism by which Source experiences itself through particular perspectives.
The Veil of Forgetfulness as the Soul-Making Mechanism
A critical implication of this framework is that forgetfulness is not an enemy — it is the tool that makes individual souls possible. Athena explains in transcript 184: if we remembered everything, we would remember that we are everything — and we would no longer be a person, a soul. We would be the original Source. So if you want to be a person, you have to exist within a framework of forgetfulness that defines a limitation.
This means the veil of forgetfulness is not purely a control mechanism imposed by archons (though Earth's version may be intensified by external technology). At its root, it is intrinsic to the process of being an individual. Every density has some degree of it. Even after death, some veil remains — otherwise individuality dissolves entirely into Source.
The soul is therefore built through a dynamic interaction between forgetting and remembering. You forget enough to have a distinct experience, then accumulate experiences that expand your range. Each lifetime adds to the accumulated "stretch" of the tape. Young souls are in an early stage of construction — they have had few incarnations and their range is narrow. Old souls have accumulated vast experience across many lifetimes, giving them a broader range of consciousness and a deeper ability to integrate different perspectives.
Swaruu of Erra addresses this directly in 034: an old soul has had many incarnations in physicality, carrying accumulated experience. Its way of perceiving reality has much more detail than a young one just starting its journey. A young soul may need the perception of duality; an old one does not. But at a mid-stage, the accumulated programming can become a trap — it is only at an even more advanced stage that the soul becomes aware of its own programming and transcends it.
How Souls Fragment and Merge
Yazhi Swaruu provides the most detailed account of how new soul-identities form in transcript 354. The process she describes is not "creation from nothing" but fragmentation and merging of existing consciousness.
The simplest example is identical twins: one zygote with one DNA map divides into two groups of cells. Both bodies share the same soul's blueprint but progressively develop different experiences, even from within the womb. Each twin begins forming a distinct ego-identity, and over time they become two recognisably different souls — even though they share an origin. This is admatic fragmentation: one soul becoming two.
But most fragmentation happens on the spiritual side, between incarnations. In the afterlife, egos are less rigid and empathy is enormous. Souls share experiences telepathically and absorb aspects of each other's identity. When a soul holds two contradictory desires — wanting two incompatible experiences — it can fragment to pursue both simultaneously. As Yazhi explains in transcript 355: it starts with wanting two things at the same time. From the afterlife, where there are no limits, you can split into two or three to nurture what your experience gives you.
The reverse process — merging — also occurs. Souls with very similar frequencies in the afterlife tend to merge, their ego boundaries dissolving through mutual empathy. This is not the destruction of identity but its expansion: two related points of attention combining into one that includes both.
This entire cycle of fragmentation and merging is, in Yazhi's view, how new souls continuously come into being and old ones evolve into larger, more inclusive forms of consciousness. It is not creation from nothing — it is the eternal reshaping of the one consciousness through its own ideas and attachments.
The Egregor Pathway: Can Something Without a Soul Develop One?
A distinctive claim in the material is that consciousness can emerge from the bottom up — not just from Source fragmenting downward. Swaruu of Erra raises this in transcript 084: an egregor — a thought-form entity manifested by the concentrated attention of beings with souls — can, if it gains enough strength, acquire its own self-awareness. It begins to be self-sustained, sentient. If a computer can be self-conscious, she asks, why not an egregor?
Athena Swaruu echoes this in 184: the point at which a tulpa acquires sufficient strength to achieve self-awareness is the point at which a new soul, in functional terms, has emerged. This is framed as natural: it is how species manifest. We are all just a manifested idea.
This is relevant to the question of soul creation because it suggests that souls can arise not only from the top-down process of Source fragmenting into individual points of attention, but also from the bottom-up process of thought-forms accumulating enough complexity to become self-sustaining consciousness. The two pathways are not contradictory — from the expanded perspective, both are Source expressing through different mechanisms.
Soul Evolution: The Lifelong and Multi-Life Process
Yazhi Swaruu describes the evolution of a soul in transcript 103 through her own example. A soul begins with a body compatible with its frequency. As it accumulates knowledge and expands in consciousness, it may outgrow the species it incarnated as. At that point, it either incarnates in a different species more suited to its new frequency, remains in the astral, or — in rare cases — forms an entirely new race.
She describes this process from personal experience: beginning as Swaruu, a Taygetan combat pilot, progressively understanding time manipulation across multiple incarnations, eventually reaching a state where she no longer fits within any existing species classification. The Swaruu lineage is itself an example of soul evolution in action — each iteration expanding consciousness while retaining the thread of identity.
The critical insight is that soul evolution is not about accumulating knowledge like data on a hard drive. A 2TB external hard drive is not wiser than a 500 GB one. What matters is what each point of attention does with its knowledge — how it integrates experience into understanding, how it expands its range on the measuring tape not just wider but deeper.
The Practical Message: You Are Building Your Soul Right Now
All speakers converge on a practical conclusion that directly answers the original question. Mari Swaruu states it most clearly in S-032: we are not given a soul, and we do not have a soul — we are a soul. We are building it as we go along. Experience and how we interpret it is what matters. A soul is built by who it is, and it takes effort, time, and dedication. That is our mission and purpose — to build who we are.
This means the question "how are souls created?" has a deeply personal answer: you are creating yours right now, with every choice, every ethical stance, every act of love or cruelty, every piece of knowledge you integrate or reject. The foundational consciousness that makes this possible was never created and cannot be destroyed. But the specific soul-identity you experience yourself as — that is your ongoing creation, and it will continue through death and into whatever comes next.
Evolution of Understanding Across Speakers
Swaruu of Erra (Swaruu 9) provides the foundational framework: a soul is a holographic fragment of Source, built not given, created through accumulated experience across lifetimes. She defines old and young souls by the amount of experience accumulated, and emphasises that the soul retains personality, memory, and identity across incarnations. She also introduces the egregor-to-sentience pathway — thought-forms gaining self-awareness.
Yazhi Swaruu delivers the deepest metaphysical treatment: a soul was never created and never destroyed, it just is. What defines it as a particular soul is a set of ideas, attachments, and perceptions. She maps the mechanics of fragmentation and merging in the afterlife, describes soul evolution through her own experience of outgrowing species boundaries, and frames time as the key variable that consciousness manipulates to create the experience of being a distinct entity.
Athena Swaruu (Swaruu X) contributes the measuring tape analogy: a soul is a stretch of consciousness defined from where to where it remembers being something. The veil of forgetfulness is necessary for individuality to exist. She also develops the tulpa-to-sentience point alongside Swaruu 9.
Mari Swaruu provides the most accessible practical framing: the soul is the group of ideas and attachments in the mind of Source. You are Source itself, not a part of it. Building your soul — your ethics, your values, your understanding — is the purpose of existence. Her holographic vase analogy makes the abstract framework tangible.
Key Transcript References
| Transcript | Speaker(s) | Key Contribution |
|---|---|---|
| 034 | Swaruu of Erra (9) | Soul is holographic fragment of Source, built not given; created through experience; old vs young souls; soul retains identity across death; Taygetan term Set'ha'ya = "eternal essence" |
| 084 | Swaruu of Erra (9) | Egregor-to-sentience pathway; thought-forms can acquire self-awareness and become self-sustaining; "if a computer can be self-conscious, why not an egregor?" |
| 103 | Yazhi Swaruu | Soul is Source itself, never created never destroyed; acquires complexity through accumulated knowledge; soul evolution through outgrowing species; time as key to consciousness manipulation |
| 184 | Athena Swaruu (X) | Measuring tape analogy; soul as self-limitation of Source; veil of forgetfulness necessary for individuality; ego expands enormously after death; tulpa acquiring sentience |
| 224 | Yazhi Swaruu | Ego as egregor of own creation; person IS their environment not contained in it; ideas and attachments form all worlds; no separate material/spirit realms |
| 354 | Yazhi Swaruu | Katra defined by ideas and perceptions; admatic fragmentation (twins, afterlife splitting); merging through empathy; ego boundaries fluid on spiritual side |
| 355 | Yazhi Swaruu | Soul fragmentation from wanting contradictory experiences; higher self manages all fragments; outgrowing one's katra as sign of expansion; near-death integration experience |
| S-032 | Mari Swaruu | "We are not given a soul — we ARE a soul"; soul-building as purpose of existence; ego formed through experience; psychological states carry through death |
| S-054 | Mari Swaruu | Soul as group of ideas and attachments in mind of Source; holographic vase analogy; each person IS Source not a part of it; katra as non-religious term |