Cosmic Agency FAQ — Knowledge From The Stars

Q10: How many people on Earth are "real" vs backdrop people?

Short Answer

According to Swaruu of Erra's original estimate, only about one in five people on Earth is "real" — meaning they have an individual soul from Source, with the rest being energy manifestations of the Matrix itself that mimic having a life but have no one inside them. These "unreal people" operate through a hive-mind program, react with pre-scripted responses, and function as background scenery for the experience of the real ones — no different in principle from a lamp post or a telephone booth.

However, this ratio is far from settled. Yazhi Swaruu later complicated the picture significantly, arguing that the concept of "real vs unreal" is fundamentally relative, not absolute. A person who is real from one point of view may be unreal from another. Two real people who do not know each other are effectively unreal to one another. Yazhi insisted that most Earth people are generated by the Matrix itself and follow if-then-else programming, but she warned against thinking in absolutes — it is "very subjective" and "you cannot state absolutes here."

Mari Swaruu grounded the concept practically through the lens of Dolores Cannon's work, adding a key nuance her predecessors had not emphasised: the false-person attribute is not fixed but intermittent — "sometimes they are false and other times they are not, depending on the angle or the point of view." She also offered the most reassuring message to those worried about their own status: "The very fact that you are questioning if you are one or not unequivocally means you are a real person with a soul."

The Full Picture

The Original Framework: Swaruu of Erra's One-in-Five Estimate

The concept of unreal people was introduced in transcript 009 ("Not Real People"), one of the earliest Cosmic Agency publications from 2018. Swaruu of Erra laid it out starkly: real people are those who actually have a soul — who have been in other places before and are having a genuine spiritual experience on Earth. The rest operate on a Matrix program — a complex but ultimately limited set of pre-programmed reactions run from a central hive mind, decoded through the brain from what Swaruu called the "lunar mainframe."

Swaruu's estimate was direct: "It appears to be that only one in five people on Earth is real. Those are the key people manifesting the Matrix." The unreal ones share a single collective brain — what she compared to the Akashic records — and their reactions, while appearing sentient, are scripted. Push them outside their programming and "they don't know how to react."

Swaruu described unreal people not as biological organisms without souls, but as something more radical: energy that takes the form of people. They appear when a real person's attention requires them and disappear when attention moves elsewhere. If you investigate their lives — follow them home, meet their families — you will find all the evidence of a real life, but that is because your attention is activating deeper layers of the program. The Matrix reads your mind and manifests accordingly.

The detection method Swaruu offered was behavioural rather than biological: unreal people cannot think outside the box, are deeply embedded in the system, dismiss conspiracy theories, UFOs, and the paranormal with identical scripted responses, and show no capacity for genuine creative or spiritual thought. But she immediately warned: "You cannot know at first. So, we must treat them equally... you must always treat everyone with the same respect."

Crucially, Swaruu noted that the ratio works both ways over time. An unreal person can become real through a walk-in — a soul entering the body through frequency compatibility. And a real person can lose their soul connection: the artist forced into a soul-crushing insurance desk job, sinking into depression until the soul retracts, leaving only a thin silver thread of connection. This process was linked to conditions like Alzheimer's, dementia, cancer, and autism — manifestations of the soul losing interest in staying.

Key source: 009 (Not Real People — Swaruu of Erra, Gosia)

Yazhi's Expansion: Relativity, Subjectivity, and the Matrix Outside Earth

By 2022, Yazhi Swaruu had taken the concept in a significantly more nuanced direction. In transcript 320 ("Unreal People Becoming All Real?"), she responded to claims circulating online that something had happened and all non-real people had suddenly become real. Yazhi dismissed this, but her reasoning went far deeper than a simple correction.

Her central argument was that reality is relative. Consider two real people — both genuinely souled, both aware of the concept — who pass each other on the street without knowing one another. From each person's point of view, the other is nothing more than a lamp post. They are both real in an absolute sense, but unreal to each other in their lived experience. This means the question "how many people are real?" does not have a single answer — it depends on whose perspective you are asking from.

That said, Yazhi did not deny the existence of people who are unreal under any point of view — "100% generated by the Matrix." These she compared directly to video game NPCs, running if-then-else algorithms with hundreds of thousands of pre-programmed reactions that simulate free will. You can throw advanced concepts at them and they will always return to socially acceptable scripted responses. She referenced Mark Twain: "You can't change an idiot no matter how many arguments you throw at him."

But even these fully Matrix-generated people can become portals for walk-in souls at any time, "which is very common." This makes any absolute census impossible.

Yazhi also introduced a radical extension: unreal people exist outside Earth too. Both the terrestrial and non-terrestrial Matrices are structured the same way and create each other. They are not two separate systems but one Matrix, with the non-terrestrial version simply being "bigger because it includes more data, more races, more information." This is why Taygetans appear "so human" — the same Matrix, the same rules, just a larger scope. Where one Matrix ends and another begins is "very subjective," like the border between France and Spain.

When Gosia pointed out that Earth has an additional layer of digital manipulation (the artificial simulation Aneeka had described), Yazhi agreed — but questioned why that digital layer would not also apply outside Earth. She left the question open, reinforcing her core message: "Do not think in absolutes."

Key sources: 320 (Unreal People Becoming All Real? — Yazhi, Gosia, Robert), 445 (Tulpas — Everything Is a Tulpa — Yazhi, Gosia)

The Numbers in Context: Souls, Vaccines, and the 8 Billion

In transcript 227, Yazhi placed the ratio question in a darker practical context. Discussing the vaccine agenda, she stated bluntly: "Not all have souls, there are less souls than they claim. There may be 8 billion, (which there are not), but of those, only a fraction are souls."

She added a crucial clustering pattern: "Souls tend to cluster among the real ones, so your friends will tend to have souls." The implication is that the people you are drawn to, the ones you form genuine connections with, are more likely to be real — while the vast statistical mass of humanity is predominantly empty. The controllers know this, Yazhi stated, and target the souled ones specifically with vaccines, while the "empty people" are "just a statistical number."

This was reinforced in transcript 115, where Gosia had a powerful realisation mid-conversation: "I feel like there are no humans here in 3D! All are ETs and the rest are Matrix for the ETs to play the game of all this fight... There is no one to liberate. There is nobody here!" Yazhi did not contradict her. The implication was stark — there is no "humanity" to save in the conventional sense. Every real person on Earth is an extraterrestrial soul using a human body, and everything else is scenery.

Key sources: 227 (Yazhi Swaruu and Issues of Human Past — Yazhi, Robert), 115 (3D Matrix, Federation, and Human Desires — Yazhi, Gosia, Robert)

Mari Swaruu's Practical Perspective: Intermittence and Self-Questioning

Mari Swaruu's treatment of the topic in S-049 ("The False People and You") was the most grounded and practical. Drawing on Dolores Cannon's work as a baseline, she presented the concept for a general audience while adding her own distinctive contribution.

Her key addition was the idea that the false-person attribute is not fixed but intermittent. Previous treatments from Swaruu and even Yazhi had discussed the concept as though a person is either real or not (with the caveat that walk-ins can change status). Mari introduced a more fluid view: a person may be false from one angle and not from another, "depending on the angle or the point of view we may understand them or even observe them." This aligns with Yazhi's relativity argument but applies it to a single individual rather than just between observers.

Mari described the mechanism plainly: when we walk down a street, we encounter people we have never seen and will never see again. We give them attributes — they must have a life, a family, a history — but from an expanded perspective, they may "literally disappear around the corner once they are out of our sight." If you run and catch up with them, you manifest them again. This echoes Swaruu's original description almost exactly, but Mari framed it through Cannon's language.

On the question of detection, Mari listed NPC characteristics: following all rules and obeying in a neurotic manner, thinking and acting exactly as their social role dictates, becoming confused and blaming you for nonsense when confronted with ideas outside their programming, doing anything to return to their "sterile routine."

Her most important contribution was the self-reassurance: if you are worried about whether you are real, that worry itself is the proof. "The very fact that you are questioning if you are one or not unequivocally means you are a real person with a soul." No NPC would have the capacity to generate that concern.

Mari also offered practical advice: treat everyone with equal respect regardless, but do not waste time and energy worrying about irrelevant others. Use the concept not as a tool for judgement but as a way to understand why some people simply cannot awaken, and to protect your own energy by not over-investing in those who are "truly irrelevant to our lives."

Key source: S-049 (The False People and You — Mari Swaruu)

Soul Retraction: How Real People Become Empty Shells

An important sub-topic is the process by which real people can become unreal — what might be called "losing your soul" in colloquial terms. Both Swaruu and Mari described this mechanism.

Swaruu's example was vivid: an artist who was happy and creatively fulfilled is forced by circumstances into a desk job selling insurance. Years of boredom and depression cause the soul to lose interest in inhabiting that body. The soul retracts, maintaining only a thin silver thread of connection. The body continues to function but is now effectively an empty shell — available for either a walk-in starseed or a lower astral entity, depending on the vibrational state left behind.

Mari expanded this into a general principle in S-157: souls have an inherent need for expansion, and when a life experience stops serving that need, the soul withdraws. "This job is killing my soul" is not a metaphor — it is a literal description of a soul retracting from a body stuck in monotonous, hopeless conditions. The body left behind becomes an NPC, operating through the collective unconscious it is immersed in.

This means the ratio is not static. The number of real people on Earth is constantly shifting as souls enter through walk-ins and exit through retraction, trauma, or loss of purpose.

Key sources: 009 (Not Real People — Swaruu), S-157 (Starseeds — What Are They? — Mari Swaruu)

Organic Portals and Their Role

Mari's treatment in S-205 ("Monitoring Spirits") added another dimension: the function of unreal people within the Matrix's self-defence system. Soulless people are not merely passive background scenery — they serve as "organic entrance portals" for lower astral entities. These entities use the empty shells to monitor, report on, and interfere with the work of high-vibration starseeds.

The Matrix, as Mari described it, actively sends monitoring souls and dark entities through organic portals to shadow positive people. These agents can take the form of nosy neighbours, old acquaintances who suddenly reappear with detailed questions about your life, or family members who persistently undermine your work. The information gathered goes back to lower astral entities, who then "send their minions to sabotage, stop, or make the positive person's work as difficult as possible."

This reframes unreal people from passive scenery to active agents of the Matrix's immune system — though not through any consciousness of their own, but as vehicles used by entities that have a stake in keeping the planetary vibration low.

Key source: S-205 (Monitoring Spirits — Mari Swaruu)

The Tulpa Angle: Everything Is an Idea

Yazhi's most metaphysically radical treatment came in transcript 445, where she placed backdrop people within her broader thesis that everything is a tulpa — a thought-form, an idea. If reality itself is just a set of agreements of perception, and a tulpa is simply a very strong idea, then what is the fundamental difference between a "real" person and an "unreal" one? Both are ideas. Both are sets of energy interpreted through consciousness.

When Gosia pointed out that a spectrometer aimed at backdrop people would show them to be as empty as a street post, Yazhi conceded that "extreme Matrixed back drops" do exist — but added that "the spectrometer is infamous for its errors." The implication is that even the technological measurement of realness has significant limitations.

This is Yazhi at her most philosophically destabilising: if everything is ideas, and we ourselves are tulpas that Source holds for reasons of its own, then the distinction between real and unreal people may be less a hard boundary and more a spectrum — one end being Source itself, the other being the most basic energy-forms that merely look like people.

Key source: 445 (Tulpas — "Everything Is a Tulpa" — Yazhi, Gosia)

Evolution of Understanding Across Speakers

|---------|--------|----------------|------------------|

| Yazhi Swaruu | 2021–2022 | "Very subjective" — most are Matrix-generated but concept is relative | Relativity of realness between observers. Unreal people exist outside Earth too. "Do not think in absolutes." Tulpa framework dissolves hard boundaries. |

| Yazhi Swaruu | 2021 | "Only a fraction are souls" out of 8 billion | Souls cluster among the real. Empty people are "just a statistical number." Controllers know and target the souled ones. |

| Mari Swaruu | 2023 | Concept is valid but intermittent, not fixed | Practical framing through Dolores Cannon. False-person attribute fluctuates. NPC behavioural indicators. Self-questioning proves you are real. |

| Mari Swaruu | 2023–2024 | Organic portals serve active Matrix defence role | Soulless people used as vehicles by lower astral entities to monitor and interfere with starseeds. Not just scenery — active agents. |

The trajectory is clear: from Swaruu's concrete 1-in-5 estimate, through Yazhi's philosophical complexification (it is relative, subjective, and the boundary between real and unreal may be illusory), to Mari's practical synthesis (the concept is useful for understanding the world, but treat it as fluid and do not waste energy judging others).

All three speakers converge on one point: regardless of who is or is not real, treat everyone with equal respect. You cannot know for certain, and how you treat others is ultimately a reflection of who you are.

Key Transcript References

| # | Title | Focus |

|---|-------|-------|

| 009 | Not Real People | Foundational transcript. ~1-in-5 ratio. Hive mind, lunar mainframe, soul spectrometer, walk-ins, soul retraction, equal treatment. |

| 115 | 3D Matrix, Federation, and Human Desires | Gosia's "no humans" realisation — all are ETs, rest is Matrix backdrop. Earth as video game for ET souls. |

| 227 | Yazhi Swaruu and Issues of Human Past | "Not all 8 billion have souls." Souls cluster among the real. Empty people are statistical numbers. Vaccine targeting. |

| 320 | Unreal People Becoming All Real? | Yazhi's definitive statement on relativity of the concept. NPC if-then-else programming. Unreal people outside Earth. Single Matrix, not two. |

| 363 | UFO Disclosures — AJ Roberts Interview | NPC indicators: lack of critical thinking, standardised Matrix answers, rigid comfort zones. "Most people out there don't even exist." |

| 445 | Tulpas — "Everything Is a Tulpa" | Backdrop people as ideas within the tulpa framework. Spectrometer errors. Everything is an idea — hard boundaries dissolve. |

| S-049 | The False People and You | Mari's practical treatment. Dolores Cannon base. Intermittent nature. NPC characteristics. Self-questioning reassurance. |

| S-157 | Starseeds — What Are They? | Soul retraction from boring/hopeless existence creates NPC shells. "This job is killing my soul" as literal description. |

| S-205 | Monitoring Spirits | Organic portals as active Matrix defence. Soulless people used by lower astral entities to monitor and sabotage starseeds. |